Newsvine
  • Welcome
  • Help
  • Report Bug
  • Conversation Tracker
  • Your Column
  • Replies
  • Friends
Type Comments Since You Last CheckedArticle Source Last Checked Stop Tracking All Clear Tracking All
Advertise | AdChoices
Log In | Register
Close the Login Panel
Existing users log in below. New users please register for a free account.

New Users:

Existing Users:

E-Mail:
Password:
Forgot Password?
Please enter the e-mail address or domain name you registered with:
E-Mail/Domain:
Back to Login
Log Out
  • Top News
  • Local News
  • World
  • U.S.
  • Sports
  • Politics
  • Tech
  • Entertainment
  • Science
  • Business
  • Health
  • Odd News
  • More
    • Arts
    • Education
    • Environment
    • Fashion
    • History
    • Home & Garden
    • Not News
    • Religion
    • Travel
Visit Robert Blevins - AB of Seattle's column >>

ROBERT BLEVINS - AB OF SEATTLE

Home Page
Reporter: 'Are you a mod or a rocker?' Ringo Starr: 'I'm a MOCKER...'
Articles Posted: 480  Links Seeded: 294
Member Since: 3/2007  Last Seen: 5/15/2012

What is Newsvine?

Updated continuously by citizens like you, Newsvine is an instant reflection of what the world is talking about at any given moment.

Get a Free Account
Help
Fun Stuff
  • Your Clippings
  • Leaderboard
  • E-Mail Alerts
  • Top of the Vine
  • Newsvine Live
  • Newsvine Archives
  • The Greenhouse
  • Recommended Articles
  • Wall of Vineness
Put a Seed Newsvine link on your own site

DNA Collection At Birth - Big Brother's Ultimate Database

Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:48 PM EDT
us-news, bush, dna, dna-collection-at-birth, dna-congressional-bill, dna-law
By Robert Blevins - AB of Seattle

Image credit: Raphael Goetter via Flickr/Creative Commons

Image Credit: Arizona Rain Man via Flickr/Creative Commons

Text by Robert M Blevins

Image credit: Paul Kelleher via Flickr/Creative Commons

Image Credit: SEIU International

Text: Robert M Blevins

Advertise | AdChoices

Well, I didn't think it would become reality THAT quickly, but back on January 1, 2008 I predicted a possible scenario of storing your DNA at birth in my article 'Ten Strange Things That Could Happen to You Using Future Technology'.

It's Thing Number 7 in the article. Let's just hope some of the others don't come true as well.

This article you are reading today is really an extension of JPark's great seed, Bush Signs Bill to Take Newborns' DNA'. Hard to believe such a bill got past the laughing stage, but it is no joke, and the punch line stinks.

There have been some arguments for the collection of DNA at birth, such as helping to match up organ donors or checking newborns for their genetic disposition to certain diseases and defects. It's all very noble, and if such a collection system were ideal, then I could maybe see the sense of it.

But it isn't ideal. Far from it. By establishing such a database, you are giving Big Brother the ultimate background information about you. The potential for abuse is staggering and the temptation to eventually twist the DNA database into uses you haven't even dreamed of yet would be too much to resist for ANY government.

I predicted in another article once that the control of information would become the most powerful force on the planet. In other words, if governments controlled all the information, they would be the most powerful entities. If corporations controlled it, then THEY would be the most powerful. If YOU controlled your information...well, you can see where this is going.

Why is it dangerous to allow governments to establish DNA databases without your consent?

Insurance companies and credit bureaus could make choices about you based solely on your genetic makeup. Governments who create their own DNA databases could use it to practice discrimination against you. We won't even discuss what entities like the CIA or the Justice Department would do with such a database. They're probably popping the champagne corks right now.

Some REALLY bad governments could use a DNA database of their populations to institute 'ethnic cleansing' without having to go through the bother of doing research on their citizens.

All they would have to do is set the parameters they want on their computers and hit the ENTER button. A couple of minutes later, they would have a list of the people they would like to dispose of somehow.

At least with fingerprints, they don't usually take those unless you are applying for a high-security job, going into the military, or being arrested. Now, the government wants to take the Big Shortcut and just find out everything about you they can the second you pop from the womb.

My question would be: Who in the hell was DUMB enough to propose such a bill to Congress, and who are the idiots that supported it? Once you let this come in through the door, the next step is to make it retroactive and require DNA samples of all citizens.

Don't be fooled. They would have done it right away with this first bill, had they thought they could get away with it. But, as the Wicked Witch of the West said: 'These things must be done delicately...'

So they'll probably make retroactive DNA collection from all citizens a Stage Two bill sooner or later. And then how do you stop it?

Answer: You can't.

This ridiculous bill makes no sense, and goes against the very fabric of our society. Although the American people have taken some pretty good hits lately on privacy issues, there are still a few in place, and your DNA is one of them. It's nobody's business except your own, possibly your doctor's, and maybe the police - IF they are investigating a crime and you happen to be a suspect. But for that they need a warrant, the same as if they come to your door and want to search your home.

What? You're still here reading this? You should already be contacting your Congressional representative.

(Note: I posted up a bit of sci-fi that takes this scenario to its ultimate limit.)

  • Enjoy this article? Help vote it up the 'Vine.

Back To Top | Front Page

Published to:

  • Robert Blevins - AB of Seattle's Column, All of Newsvine
  • Groups: Brave New World, DemGuys, Heated Debate, Left of Center, Nightly News (Old), ObamaVine, Open Mic, Question Authority, Seattleites, To MSNBC
  • Regions: none
  • Public Discussion (17)
Robert Blevins - AB of Seattle

This goes far beyond the old 'Big Brother is Watching You' scenario.

  • 4 votes
Reply#1 - Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:46 PM EDT
gladbutterfly

You're right, Robert. This is a very dangerous practice for liberty. I can't imagine how to prevent the information from being abused. I sure hope somebody can:-(

  • 2 votes
Reply#2 - Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:30 PM EDT
Griff69

Excellent article, although you lost me at:

What? You're still here reading this? You should already be contacting your Congressional representative.

Do you think that will help?

  • 4 votes
Reply#3 - Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:40 PM EDT
Allan Neal

Contacting your rep won't help, but it's mandatory. Doing that is the first step to getting involved. It's an exercise. While I was organizing the petition drive for Ron Paul in Virginia, to those that said we should get the minimum number of signatures and stop there, I answered with this idea: the petition drive was really Politics 101 for most of the supporters. They had never participated in the process. Getting as many people out in the streets doing something was key.

From there, my plan was simple. The Primary was Politics 102, the Delegate Drive was 103. Unfortunately, the Lew Moore campaign cancelled those classes.

This will give you an idea of how far along data collection and the technology has come. A few states are even proceeding to collect biometric information without debate or legislation passed supporting it. DMV's get funding for it by requesting "Funds for technology". Florida and NC are collecting Hi Rez photos. NC even has a NAU "ready" license.

  • 1 vote
#3.1 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:43 AM EDT
Reply
Barry Rutherford

clipped to Brave New World Group....

  • 4 votes
Reply#4 - Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:01 PM EDT
cgbs6183

Why waste money on the REAL ID they have been patient thus far whats one more generation; the old they can just lure in with fake Social Security check give aways.

Privacy is essential to Liberty.

  • 4 votes
Reply#5 - Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:03 PM EDT
Robert Blevins - AB of Seattle

Griff69 asks:

'What? You're still here reading this? You should already be contacting your Congressional representative.
Do you think that will help?'

I think it could. I can't believe they sneaked this law into place. (And I can't believe I'm actually calling it a 'law'.)

Our lawmakers lately seem to be taking the scariest angles out of sci-fi and trying to make them reality. They probably thought the film 'Gattica' was an instruction manual for the future.

  • 4 votes
Reply#6 - Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:39 PM EDT
Griff69

I'll grant that it doesn't hurt anything. I guess I'm just getting too old and jaded to think it will accomplish anything.

  • 2 votes
#6.1 - Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:43 PM EDT
cranky old man

We won't even discuss what entities like the CIA or the Justice Department would do with such a database.

I can tell you what they are thinking now. We can create the greatest soldiers alive! We just pick out the right DNA, and groom him/her into what we want. Brainwash from birth. Who could ask for more?

Our elected officials are those who are responsible for the path we are taking. There are only a few, who get elected and re-elected over and over. It is time for the average Joe to stand up and take his place in history. Help get this country back on track. Run for office and help change things. Flood the ballots with names no one has ever heard of. Maybe they might get the picture.

Here is a little food for thought. It only takes 545 people to make or break our country.

  • 3 votes
#6.2 - Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:51 PM EDT
Reply
Adam Becker

Good thing there isn't a record of how individual members of the House and Senate voted on this bill. It's yet another way for the Democrat Party sheep to ignore the party's monumental failures. Of course, from a group of people who claim Obama's support of the PATRIOT Act as an accomplishment, I'd expect nothing less than praise for his supporting a bill that didn't require killing all babies or something.

P.S. - This bill was sponsored in the Senate by Democrat Chris Dodd and in the House of Representatives by California Democrat Lucille Roybal-Allard.

  • 4 votes
Reply#7 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:15 AM EDT
ericslocum

It is a slippery slope and we're sliding. I'm 50 and I've seen so much erosion in the privacy area in my lifetime.

  • 4 votes
Reply#8 - Tue Jul 1, 2008 7:01 PM EDT
Allan Neal

It is a slippery slope and we're sliding

It's a luge.

  • 2 votes
#8.1 - Fri Jul 4, 2008 8:37 AM EDT
Reply
Sandie Seward

I'm just glad that I'm sixty-three, this life is not what i was expecting.

  • 2 votes
Reply#9 - Fri Jul 4, 2008 1:48 AM EDT
gladbutterfly

I'm with you on that, Sandie. It's like all my worst nightmares during my life are coming to pass. Don't get me wrong, I love life and what I've learned from even the nightmares, but really, I am getting somewhat tired of them.

  • 1 vote
#9.1 - Sat Jul 5, 2008 4:36 PM EDT
Sandie Seward

I've not taken your comment wrongly, Gladbutterfly, I understand where you're coming from, I also love life, but it is like having a deep and utter darkness just hovering almost out of sight on the horizon. Sometimes it creeps closer, then sometimes the sun comes out, and for a while the darkness subsides....but you know it's there. You can feel it, even when you can't see it. Sometimes it's almost tangible, and you can even taste it.

  • 2 votes
#9.2 - Sat Jul 5, 2008 5:57 PM EDT
gladbutterfly

More and more like that, I'm afraid. I remind myself of the Dalai Lama's instruction to remain optimistic and remain determined. It's never been more necessary than now.

  • 1 vote
#9.3 - Sat Jul 5, 2008 6:46 PM EDT
Reply
Pacific Northwest Blogger

Call me silly, but I always thought they had my DNA when they gave me my polio shots.
Oh wait that was an X-Files movie

  • 3 votes
Reply#10 - Fri Jul 4, 2008 8:55 PM EDT
Leave a Comment:
You're in Easy Mode. If you prefer, you can use XHTML Mode instead.
You're in XHTML Mode. If you prefer, you can use Easy Mode instead.
(XHTML tags allowed - a,b,blockquote,br,code,dd,dl,dt,del,em,h2,h3,h4,i,ins,li,ol,p,pre,q,strong,ul)
Newsvine Privacy Statement
As a new user, you may notice a few temporary content restrictions. Click here for more info.
FUN STUFF:
  • Leaderboard |
  • E-Mail Alerts |
  • Top of the Vine |
  • Newsvine Live |
  • Newsvine Archives |
  • The Greenhouse |
COMPANY STUFF:
  • Code of Honor |
  • Company Info |
  • Contact Us |
  • Jobs |
  • User Agreement |
  • Privacy Policy |
  • About our ads
LEGAL STUFF:
  • © 2005-2012 Newsvine, Inc. |
  • Newsvine® is a registered trademark of Newsvine, Inc. |
  • Newsvine is a property of msnbc.com